Who is actually behind undermining The Scriptures? |
In fact, rather than arguing against people such as Robert J. Schadewald - in a point by point debate - who has ( so melodramatically ) stated: " The Bible is, from Genesis to Revelation, A Flat Earth Book "... I would simply choose my own particular ground, from The End Time Prophecy Of Obadiah Against The Descendants Of Edom; and let the chips simply fall where they may!
Time to say: " Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie ".... |
Meanwhile, there are a whole lot of people that are terribly ignorant about what is ( quite truthfully ) to be found in that book.
The Book Of Obadiah: Is Right In The Very Heart Of That Book....
A little historical background on Obadiah. |
So, Obadiah had better be A Flat Earth Testament also! Otherwise, you know what that ( so truthfully ) means... don't, you? Someone has, once again, been definitely lying.
Now, let's just see what we might find.
The Message Of Obadiah: Is The Coming Judgment Upon The Descendants Of Edom....
As such, it will factually occur in whatever land that Edom is currently dwelling; and it will undoubtedly effect all of the other human families that they are currently in league with; either for better, or worse. After all, when you live in an age of The Modern Nation State, it takes a whole lot of those families to build A Well-Rounded & Defensible Community.
" The vision of Obadiah.
Thus says The Lord God concerning Edom ( We have heard a report from the Lord, and a messenger has been sent among the nations, saying, ' Arise, and let us rise up against her for battle ' ):
Behold, I will make you small among the nations; and You shall be greatly despised.
{ ***NOTE: It is ( therefore ): A Very Large, Well Known, and Highly Regarded Nation - just prior to it's fall! Because, otherwise, such a statement would be utterly meaningless. }
The Pride Of Your Heart has deceived you, You who dwell in the clefts of the rock, Whose habitation is high; You who say in your heart, ‘ Who Will Bring Me Down To The Ground? ’
{ ***NOTE: It is ( therefore ): An Extremely Prideful Nation, With Deeply Underground Military Bases, A Space Platform For Informational Reconnaissance, and The Capability To Access It Whenever Necessary. }
Though you ascend as high as The Eagle, and though you set Your Nest Among The Stars, from there I Will Bring You Down, ' says The Lord.
{ ***NOTE: It ( therefore ): Claims The Eagle As It's Own National Symbol, Taught The Rest Of Humanity Finally How To Fly, Gained Even More National Prestige By Winning That Long Running Space Race, and ( indeed ) Operates A Currently Permanent Space Station - in, full view of every nation upon earth. }
The U. S. Space Program is found in The Bible! |
You see, dear brothers and sisters, ' As A Book Of Spiritually Obtained Knowledge, The Bible Utilizes Speech That Is ( Both ): Literal and Metaphorical In Nature '... in the very same way that Jesus [ Himself ] ( both ): Spoke Quite Directly To Those Whom He Chose and Utilized Parables To Those Outside Of His Own Personal Confidence.
After all, when you are openly discussing events that are still far into the future, ' Such All-Important Knowledge Can ( And, Indeed, Will ) Be Utilized By Your Own Enemies In Any Real Effort To Alter The Overall Spiritual Focus Of Those Upcoming Events '.
Now, Let's Just Examine Some More Of This Old Testament Prophecy....
If thieves had come to you, If robbers by night— Oh, how you will be cut off!—Would they not have stolen till they had enough? If grape-gatherers had come to you, Would they not have left some gleanings?
Oh, how Esau shall be searched out... how, His Own Hidden Treasures shall be sought after!
{ ***NOTE: It is ( therefore ): An Extremely Wealthy Nation, and ( indeed ) Commands Great Amounts Of Capital, Resources, And Knowledge - that, every other nation on earth now factually desires! }
All the men in Your Confederacy shall force you to the border; the men at peace with you shall deceive you and prevail against you. Those who eat Your Bread shall lay a trap for you. And, no one is aware of it.
{ ***NOTE: It is ( therefore ): A Confederacy Of Interdependent States, With A Great Number Of Military Allies, and An Extremely Large Exporter Of Food. }
What is that, On The Back Of Your Money? |
In fact, We Most-Certainly Can... since, Isaac [ Who Was The Patriarch To Both: Edom And Israel ] made them A Very Specific Prophetical Promise Upon His Own Deathbed.... and, there are indeed numerous references throughout all of the scriptures to all of the other parties involved in This Very Large Familial Confederacy!
Ahava and Shalom.
May Yahweh's Own: Love and Peace - be upon you!
The Bible does not contradict itself; the first thing you learn as a freshmen in Bible school is Hebrew Cosmology. Flat Earth. So your interpretation of Obadiah is wrong since we have over 400 scriptures which support the Hebrew Cosmology. Who will you believe; your own interpretation or the Bible? Plain Ole Chris
ReplyDeleteI have never claimed that: ' The Bible Contradicts Itself ' - please point out that statement from within this article, for me.
DeleteNor, have I ever attended: A Bible School, Theological Seminary, or ( any self described ) School For The Prophets - as a freshman, or otherwise.
Perhaps, you might enlighten me into exactly where I went wrong in my own article?
And, if it isn't beneath you too much, please try to show it from scripture....
BTW I can show you links from NASA scientist which say that we can not go more than 250 miles high safely. They also admit there is no space station and never went to the moon. You say you are a man of the Word; yet you will agree with the masons that the earth is round and not flat as God says? http://www.crivoice.org/circle.html This person does not believe the bible but proves what God meant when stating it. So my point is do you believe science or God? Plain Ole Chris
ReplyDeletePersonally, I don't know any NASA Scientists... but, I do know ( very well ) What The Word Of God Says... so, you had better be very careful in what you yourself claim!
DeleteMeanwhile, it wasn't A Free Mason that very clearly stated:
" It is He who sits above The Circle Of The Earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers.
Who Stretches Out The Heavens like a curtain, and Who Spreads Them Out like a tent to dwell in. " - Isaiah 40:22.
You see, it was God who first taught us about: That Round Earth and Ever-Expanding Universe - and, not those Free Masons!
And, I Believe God....
As for your own link to the ( so-called ): " Christian Resource Institute " - what can I ( quite honestly ) say?
DeleteOther than, perhaps: ' They Are Equally Wrong Upon A Great Many Of Things '!
Like, for instance: The Biblical Sabbath, God's Own Holy Days, etc....
Perhaps, you might do better by Just Studying That Book!
When quoting God sitting upon the top of the circle of the earth you must look into the Hebrew for that meaning (circle) a circle may be flat as drawn upon a piece of paper but it can not be round like a sphere. I don't mean to upset you as it seems I did. However, as you said so proudly you did not go to Bible college so I guess you haven't learned to use a concordance. The word circle in Is. is chuwg 2329. means, circle;circut;compass. from 2328 chuwg,khoog;to describe a circle:-compass. Hope that helps.
ReplyDeleteOh, indeed, I know perfectly well: " How To Use A Concordance " - both: To Look Up A Biblical Reference and To See How Others Define The Terminology Therein.
ReplyDeleteHowever, unlike some people, I'm not so foolish as to believe that those so-called biblical scholars who create them are always 100% correct in all cases!
More importantly, however... since, they like us now live in more contemporary times: ' They Self-Admittedly Can Only Surmise The Approximate Meaning Based Upon The Secondary And Often Tertiary Information That Is Currently Available To Our Generation '... and, like lingual archeologists, frequently render their own determinations under the logical assumption that: ' The Knowledge Of Those Who Came Before Us Was Obviously Far More Inferior And Primitive '.
Finally, there is the common error throughout scholarly circles of assuming that: ' Such Pockets Of Knowledge Are Wholly Consistent '.
For example, while The Nations Of Western Europe still thought that the earth was flat thanks to an all-consuming and highly ignorant Catholic Church, The Muslim Nations Still Knew Otherwise having retained their own very well maintained and publicly available libraries.
We can accurately assign the meaning of: " Sphere " - to the scripture, in this instance, for a purely logical reason... quite irrespective of the word that is actually being used - due to how it is being employed gramatically.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, let's just look at that whole verse once again....
Isaiah 40:22 says:
" He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. "
Now, if He is sitting Above the circle of the earth, then space is actually being described as: " 3 Dimensional ". Not only that, He is far above the earth, since we all look like grasshoppers to Him! Ergo, the sky is much higher in their own theology than you might logically expect.
But, let's move on...
If He, indeed, stretches out the heavens like a canopy; then space is being defined as a very large void that dwarfs the earth considerably in purely logical comparison. More over, since that canopy is regarded as above the entire earth ( no matter where you go ), the only solution is: " A 3 Dimensional Earth " - which we all know as: " A Sphere ".
By the way, you do know how sailors back then navigated a circular ( spherical ) earth, with: An Astrolabe and A Compass. Just, think about it!
ReplyDeleteBy the way, if God is stretching out the universe; and the stars are staying in their own relative positions respectively ( so that you can still navigate ); how is that logically accomplished in a: " 2 Dimensional Model "?
ReplyDeleteThink outside the box... bro!
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